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Cinna the Poet's avatar

"If you’re anti-woke, the arguments come across as so poorly formulated and illogical that you end up discussing motives."

If you read Plato with a critical eye you will find that it's always been quite possible for a brilliant mind to accept poorly formulated and illogical arguments.

Rather than saying that woke people have a system of thought designed to undermine evidence, as Warby suggests, I think it's more accurate to say that there are two subgroups of the movement. Some woke intellectuals are like Spivak or Kendi and these ones fit Warby's description. Others like Adam Grant or Claudine Gay are quite rigorous about evidence in a way, but too credulous about accepting expert consensus and politically biased research.

The same goes on the anti woke side by the way. There's a certain faction of people like Brett Weinstein, James Lindsay and Scott Adams who indulge in conspiracy theories and postmodern dismissal of objective evidence. And there are others who treat obviously biased research from people like Sailer or Kirkegaard as deserving of uncritical acceptance.

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luciaphile's avatar

I want to put in here that I am enjoying your "macro memoir". I appreciate its straightforward clarity; must have been harder to produce than it might seem. I move through it a little at a time googling the various econ fashions as I go, having taken no econ class, ever. I think it would be a useful exercise if more professional pundits made themselves go through a similar exercise, detailing the evolution of their thinking.

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