I'm surprised you haven't even mentioned #4: Harris rose to power (insofar as she has) by the same method as Cleopatra. Which has nothing to do with her color.
If you try to pass the Ideological Turing Test, rather obvious most people supporting Harris would say both #2 and #3. They believe she's as qualified as others, but talking about racial preferences hurts your tribe, so ostracize those who do. This is logically cohesive position, and if you ask Harris supporters I'm confident that's what most of them would tell you if they trusted you well enough to be direct.
Biden said he would choose a Black Vice President did he not? So she was chosen because she was Black, was she not?
Discrimination against Black people/women in favour of White people/men is race/sex discrimination and is baaaad. Discrimination against White people/men in favour of Black people/women is affirmative action and is gooood.
So it’s race/sex discrimination when the bien pensants say it is but it isn’t when they are doing it.
I always have difficulty spelling hypocrisy. Pass the humbugs mother.
Looking at the list of contenders, my feeling is Biden chose the person that would be least threatening to himself. Harris is so incompetent she is a liability to the administration, but she is not a threat to Biden and his agenda.
That Biden did pledge to nominate a black woman to the Supreme Court, and he followed through with that pledge, and he only considered a woman for VP, is strong evidence he believes checking off race and gender checkboxes is how society should operate.
The speaker's claim Harris was chosen for her race is debatable and not strongly supported.. But the statement is True for the the newest supreme court justice. Is it verboten to say about AA hires what Biden himself said?
You are definitely allowed to say what you believe. You may not be invited to universities to say it. And if most of what you believe seems to be: "that black person shouldn't have that job," then the rest of us will also say what we believe.
All VP candidates are there to fill some perceived gap and persuade marginal voters. G. HW Bush, D. Cheney both filled a gap. Just like K .Harris. It doesn't matter which of the 3 possible responses are "correct". Anyone who is elected is by some definition of the word "qualified". See: D. Trump.
One of my interests is 'words in other languages for which English does not have an equivalent', and one of my faves is 'mokita' from the Kivila language spoken in Papua New Guinea and which means 'the truth we all know, but agree not to talk about' - I've also read that Kivila speakers regard groups with many mokita as less healthy than groups with fewer.
Is there a 2a and a 2b? If she was equally qualified as anyone else, then that seems to me to be a different type of affirmative action that if she was not. In both cases, her race could be a factor.
All other things being equal is very different than affirmative action to overcome an qualification imbalance
I think that's an important distinction and I think both types of affirmative action have an appropriate time and place.
The other thing that is being ignored is Biden was a protege of Democrat segregationists like Eastland and Byrd when he arrived in Congress in the 1970s. He even had good things to say about George Wallace at the time. Kamala Harris's attack on Biden for racism may have been a bit disingenuous but it was not entirely wrong. SC Representative Clyburn's demand that Biden pledge to appoint a black woman to the USSC was likely only incidentally aligned with wokeness. He's old enough to know Biden's backroom sympathies first hand, and wanted tangible evidence that Biden was willing to repudiate them. Of course, Biden changes positions like a weathervane so it probably wasn't really necessary but it was a valuable promise for Clyburn to extract.
If I honestly believed #1, I would probably stop being a Democrat. Joe Biden is 79 years old and shows clear signs of dementia. If the best nonsenile candidate in the Democratic Party was a one-term senator with no foreign policy, military, or macroeconomic experience, then the Democratic Party has ceased to be a source of viable candidates.
The barbarians have already converged on (3). They have been grabbing power and enforcing their dicta. No surprise. The relevant issue is what prices they are willing to pay to keep the power they have already grabbed and to expand it. To analyze it you have to focus on politics at the national and state levels rather than on its implications for the strategies and policies of small groups and organizations.
I'm surprised you haven't even mentioned #4: Harris rose to power (insofar as she has) by the same method as Cleopatra. Which has nothing to do with her color.
If you try to pass the Ideological Turing Test, rather obvious most people supporting Harris would say both #2 and #3. They believe she's as qualified as others, but talking about racial preferences hurts your tribe, so ostracize those who do. This is logically cohesive position, and if you ask Harris supporters I'm confident that's what most of them would tell you if they trusted you well enough to be direct.
Biden said he would choose a Black Vice President did he not? So she was chosen because she was Black, was she not?
Discrimination against Black people/women in favour of White people/men is race/sex discrimination and is baaaad. Discrimination against White people/men in favour of Black people/women is affirmative action and is gooood.
So it’s race/sex discrimination when the bien pensants say it is but it isn’t when they are doing it.
I always have difficulty spelling hypocrisy. Pass the humbugs mother.
Here is a NY Times story on Biden's VP considerations. He was going to pick a woman and a black woman was a priority, but not a promise.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/biden-vice-president-2020.html
Looking at the list of contenders, my feeling is Biden chose the person that would be least threatening to himself. Harris is so incompetent she is a liability to the administration, but she is not a threat to Biden and his agenda.
That Biden did pledge to nominate a black woman to the Supreme Court, and he followed through with that pledge, and he only considered a woman for VP, is strong evidence he believes checking off race and gender checkboxes is how society should operate.
The speaker's claim Harris was chosen for her race is debatable and not strongly supported.. But the statement is True for the the newest supreme court justice. Is it verboten to say about AA hires what Biden himself said?
You are definitely allowed to say what you believe. You may not be invited to universities to say it. And if most of what you believe seems to be: "that black person shouldn't have that job," then the rest of us will also say what we believe.
All VP candidates are there to fill some perceived gap and persuade marginal voters. G. HW Bush, D. Cheney both filled a gap. Just like K .Harris. It doesn't matter which of the 3 possible responses are "correct". Anyone who is elected is by some definition of the word "qualified". See: D. Trump.
One of my interests is 'words in other languages for which English does not have an equivalent', and one of my faves is 'mokita' from the Kivila language spoken in Papua New Guinea and which means 'the truth we all know, but agree not to talk about' - I've also read that Kivila speakers regard groups with many mokita as less healthy than groups with fewer.
Is there a 2a and a 2b? If she was equally qualified as anyone else, then that seems to me to be a different type of affirmative action that if she was not. In both cases, her race could be a factor.
All other things being equal is very different than affirmative action to overcome an qualification imbalance
I think that's an important distinction and I think both types of affirmative action have an appropriate time and place.
The other thing that is being ignored is Biden was a protege of Democrat segregationists like Eastland and Byrd when he arrived in Congress in the 1970s. He even had good things to say about George Wallace at the time. Kamala Harris's attack on Biden for racism may have been a bit disingenuous but it was not entirely wrong. SC Representative Clyburn's demand that Biden pledge to appoint a black woman to the USSC was likely only incidentally aligned with wokeness. He's old enough to know Biden's backroom sympathies first hand, and wanted tangible evidence that Biden was willing to repudiate them. Of course, Biden changes positions like a weathervane so it probably wasn't really necessary but it was a valuable promise for Clyburn to extract.
If I honestly believed #1, I would probably stop being a Democrat. Joe Biden is 79 years old and shows clear signs of dementia. If the best nonsenile candidate in the Democratic Party was a one-term senator with no foreign policy, military, or macroeconomic experience, then the Democratic Party has ceased to be a source of viable candidates.
The barbarians have already converged on (3). They have been grabbing power and enforcing their dicta. No surprise. The relevant issue is what prices they are willing to pay to keep the power they have already grabbed and to expand it. To analyze it you have to focus on politics at the national and state levels rather than on its implications for the strategies and policies of small groups and organizations.