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RatMan29's avatar

I would add one important point. The first two points under tl;dr apply in multiple ways -- not just with "the authority" meaning government, but also with "the authority" being the forum owner, or any third-party business or club that might smear, fire, or expel you for expressing views they disagree with.

Libertarians are too quick to assume that a private business owner can do no wrong by discriminating, but in my view that only holds when that field of business is sufficiently unregulated so that "Let dissenters create their own businesses and compete with us!" is actually a practical remedy. If it is not, then rules against that form of discrimination are necessary and right.

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Given the inability of Vance, and other Republicans, to straightforwardly answer "Who won the US 2020 Presidential Election?", I lack your confidence "that the evidence for the Holocaust will continue to be convincing" to the political world, especially the current Republican party.

I think it's merely that the US right-wing power structure isn't pushing Holocaust Denial, in contrast to e.g. Election Denial or Climate Denial. If they were to push Holocaust Denial, I think we'd see hordes of supposed conservative intellectuals talking about how we should never assume - *sneer* - that history is settled, what about this now-refuted piece of Holocaust Evidence, and going on and on about how badly "heterodox Holocaust scholars" have been treated by the Jewish, err I mean, Liberal, establishment. I don't know what to do about it, but I'd argue that the concerns about it happening are well-supported.

Let us not forget a currently famous statement of the 2020 losing candidate:

"A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating -- they're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame."

This isn't identical to "The Jews, they're murdering our little children, those people that came in. They're killing the kids of the people that live there, for their blood". However, I would say a path from the former to the latter is pretty clear. And in that case, I'm 100% certain there would be right-wing media reaction of "But a Jew did kill a child in this incident! And the media didn't report that it was a Jewish killing!"

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