UPDATE: A commenter recommends the explainer of walk-and-talk by Kevin Kelly and Craig Mod.
Dan Wang’s 2023 letter includes an enthralling description of a “walk-and-talk.”
One of the ideas of the walk-and-talk, as Craig puts it, is to put adults in situations they may not have experienced since they were kids: “new people, unknown environs, continuous socializing, intense conversations.” Our demographics leaned toward the middle-aged and self-employed: people who could afford to disconnect from family and work obligations for what was really a ten-day commitment in early December. Few of the twelve of us had previously met anyone else on this trip and a long walk is a fast way to get to know someone. Talking happened naturally, as the landscape continuously reconfigured us into knots of two or three. Our conversation weaved into a single strand over the nightly dinner, with Kevin moderating over one topic.
It sounds like the logistics involved what people call “credit-card camping.” That is, you stay in a hotel at night, and your belongings are carried in a van. Note that instead of hiring a driver you could take turns driving the van.
I will refer to it as “Wang’s walk,” although he was not the organizer. It sounds like something I would like to do myself. Outdoors, physical activity, some mental stimulation, and low-key socializing all would be appealing. The key to making it satisfying for me would be having people I enjoy conversing with. Otherwise, there are small changes that would not detract from it for my purposes.
Wang’s walk was over a 7 day period. I guess that 5 days would be enough for me. In fact, if I were not sure that I had chosen a good set of people, I might not want to commit to more than 3 days.
Wang’s walk was in Thailand. I do not need such an exotic location. I could go for a route that is only slightly less monotonous than the path along the C&O canal. I would not want really rugged terrain, because that would inhibit talking.
It sounds like the meals on Wang’s walk were more elaborate than I need. Probably to accommodate other people I would have to put up with some high end meals. But I personally only enjoy restaurant food on an occasional basis.
Wang’s walk averaged 15 kilometers a day. That seems like less than 5 hours of walking. I could see bumping that up to 3-4 hours before lunch and 3-4 hours afterward. That might mean that the average age of people on the walk would be closer to 55 or 60. I am almost 70, and while I do not think of myself as being in great shape, at my age it is not so common to be able to walk 7 hours a day. I cannot think of any couple among our friends where both spouses could do it.
If you agree with me that a walk-and-talk sounds intriguing, leave a comment. What location in the U.S. do you think would be ideal? What could discourage you from trying it, and what would disappoint you if you were to try it?
I have walked/hiked a couple of times in Spain, on their pilgrimage routes. (Nowadays, I guess most people there are not pilgrims, but rather those who enjoy walking and hiking.) Although I did go to Spain to walk and talk, when I read Dan Wang's newsletter, I immediately remembered my experiences there. Walking, at least for me, is mentally stimulating. It allows you to get away from everyday noise, don't have to think about the little daily hassles. In my experience, walking 15 km in a day is on the low end. It's not challenging at all. You can have numerous breaks and a relaxed pace. For instance, in Spain, it’s easy to stop in a village for a coffee or a sandwich. I you enter a village (as I did in Spain), you can have a cup of coffee or a sandwich. I'm not sure about the US, but I would suggest taking routes that are already popular with hikers/walkers. They typically require less preparation, offer better infrastructure.
If you want a linear trail i.e. point A to point B you'd want something like the AT, but it lacks quality accommodations- maybe the Shenandoah or Harper's Ferry areas.
Your other option is to find a hub as base camp and have daily hikes. Yellowstone Lodge and then day hikes/loops which bring you back to the lodge would solve the issue(or take a van to specific trailheads). My guess is there are State or Nat'l parks in the northeast which fill the bill and have relatively flat hikes.