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My father contributed to a 401k through his union. He had limited options for choosing funds and the ones involving the stock market were actively managed with the manager taking home like 1% or something. I always thought the union was getting a kickback from the managers.

Those active managers have to trade because doing nothing would call into question their 1%.

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Fischer Black's "Noise," written in 1985, which introduced the concept of noise traders, largely avoids the question of why anyone would persist in trading noise. But once we assume that true asset values exist, we commit to introducing informational privilege as the basis for rational trading.

What if they don't?

Hal Varian's "Differences of Opinion and the Volume of Trade ", also 1985, offers a compelling alternative perspective that does not need privileged "informed" traders and the fools who insist on trading on noise. In his model, there are no privileged parties; everybody is mildly rational, mildly mistaken, and there is no true but unobserved value of any asset, only information that gets interpreted and evaluated in a larger economic context.

Black dismisses Varian's view in a footnote in his Noise - that's how I learned about Varian's models.

Black's paper is cited ~5000 times. Varian's 50.

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