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Christopher F. Hansen's avatar

A long time ago, around when Moldbug was still writing Unqualified Reservations, there was some discussion about the structure of the then-emerging neoreactionary movement. Nick Land among others wrote about it.

Land's observation was that progressivism is a value system which treats equality as the highest good. The groups opposed to progressivism then either rejected this value system entirely or had some other values that they considered equally important.

These were capitalists (which generally accept wealth and income inequality), religious or traditionalist conservatives (which accept that not all behaviors or lifestyles are equally valuable) and nationalists (which accept that we should have unequal loyalties toward or attitudes to different people groups).

Looking at your discussion of the book, I think group 1 fits fairly well onto the traditionalist wing, while group 3 is clearly influenced by nationalism. The capitalist wing, which was clearly influential in the form of the "tech right", is missing. I suppose most of this group is found in private industry instead of in university departments or think tanks.

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I agree with Kling's critique of Deneen. The failure in our current culture is Illiberalism. It is the refusal to allow criticism and disagreement. The virtue of "being nice" has become a vice and the consequence is a society that is incredibly mean and intolerant of nonconforming opinion.

We all know of the vitriol between the "Right" and the "Left". Unfortunately meanness exists everywhere. Being nice is actually a weapon used to pummel people, including people that are supposed to be allies - witness the observation that the "safe & friendly" BlueSky social media platform invites ugliness and bitterness as participants become ever more intolerant of disagreement.

American society would benefit from a change in priority from "being nice and conforming" to "being excellent". What is missing from 21st century society is the recognition that excellent people make society better - we need individuals to be more excellent. We need institutional leaders with the wisdom and courage to openly recognize that some ideas are superior than others. Liberalism has allowed people to choose many different paths. But it is not the fault of Liberalism that people are scared of speaking openly that some paths are superior and some are inferior - Illiberalism did that!

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