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Adam Cassandra's avatar

The most likely counterfactual at the geostrategic level is surely that nuclear-armed Israel would eventually launch preemptive strikes. Else what choice does it have, sit and take it? The large in land and population, oil-exporting nation of Iran that does not even border Israel surely has no need for nuclear anything except as an offensive weapon.

Whether any of it is the US's business is a different question, although it seems oil will dominate geopolitics in the 21st century as it did in the 20th century (see The Prize).

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I take the view that leaders are rational in some way and unpredictable lunatics do not rise to power, because predictability is a prerequisite to being followed by henchmen. In the case of nuclear weapons, I believe that using them is beyond the pale for both rational leaders and henchmen because there's too much chance of national suicide, and it is the henchmen who would have to carry out the orders.

Even if Iran doesn't have launch codes and require multiple keys for launch, they must have some means of control, because while they can rely on the random half-illiterate fanatics to enforce morality codes, they cannot trust them with launching nuclear missiles on their own; if the leader has the power to start a nuclear war, he's going to make sure no one else can usurp that power, especially street thugs who are good for nothing more than beating up women who let their hair show.

Thus I do not believe ANY Iranian leaders want to start a nuclear war whose response would obliterate them before they barely got started in their holy mission to wipe out infidels, and I do not believe that the fanatics who don't mind committing national cultural suicide have the power to do so, as shown by the fact they haven't done so yet.

The only real evidence I have is that North Korea has been tamer since acquiring nuclear weapons than they were beforehand. It's not like North Korea has become stable and respectable, but they have become less rowdy. Their first nuclear weapons test was 9 October 2006. They sank a South Korean warship four years later. The last known Japanese kidnapping victim was 1983. An American may have been kidnapped in 2004.

A lot of people think the risk of a nuclear Iran is too high for such flimsy evidence. I have no counter-argument.

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