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Dave Friedman's avatar

I’m not convinced that the amount of lying happening today is different in amount from that of previous administrations.

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Impeachment is a political act and so requires political calculation. In the 1970s a majority of Republicans were ashamed to support Nixon and calculated that it was better to have him go.

There is no shame in politics today. There certainly is a focus on making the other guys feel ashamed, but almost nobody feels ashamed over their own guy or gal (or rather, that shame doesn’t really affect the political calculation). I think maybe we’ve had this degree of corrupt partisanship back in the 1800s, so not completely new.

I have never voted for Trump or Biden and likely never will. Trump is a poor decision maker, a poor delegator (just saying things accomplishes nothing in a bureaucracy aligned against you- it requires good people with focus and determination holding feet to the fire for months and years) is too impulsive and relies on exaggeration as a rhetorical device (like someone changing the subject to when did you last beat your wife)- if the opponents are spending time refuting his lies or calling him a liar they aren’t advancing real arguments. He also lies easily for no real purpose.

Trump, though, is not really a partisan (he knows how the game is played) and actually has exhibited restraint far beyond what any normal person would have if they had been spied on by the Obama admin, called a Russian spy by the intelligence agencies, impeached for looking into Biden’s corruption, sued by political opponents on spurious grounds for nearly $1 billion, and now facing jail time on Trumped up charges.

That level of persecution would drive most normal people nuts. Maybe it helps that Trump is a little nuts and has a sense of humor and lots of money.

All of the J6 and election stuff is beyond the pale, but be honest - everyone knows the Dems would have pulled similar stunts had Biden lost by 45,000 votes over three states (it was war gamed by Dem operatives pre-election) and they had thousands of swampies and antifa types ready to set the country on fire in 2020 (they were already doing a good job in many cities). Isn’t a coincidence that the “independent” swampies and antifa types allegedly protesting against local policing rules and racism suddenly (for the most part) stopped as soon as Trump lost?

Biden is just a nasty, low intelligence SOB who sold out to China and various Russian/ex-CIS oligarchs while serving as VP. His lies aren’t rhetorical devices (except the lines he is fed about Charlottesville, bleach, losers, etc)- he is thoroughly dishonest with no sense of humor. He has proven to be a threat to democracy- censoring Americans, prosecuting and harassing opponents (not just Trump), opening the border, instituting racist/discriminatory policies and programs, and attempting to spend $400 billion illegally (student loan handouts) and on a whim without congressional approval. Despite being told it is illegal he continues to try. Biden should have been impeached for all of the above long before being impeached on competency grounds.

Hey- this is where we are. Not the situation I would have chosen. Trump, at least, was chosen by voters over more traditional candidates like Nikki and DeSantis. Nobody serious threw their hat in the ring against Biden.

Around the world people are figuring out how unaccountable and autocratic our bureaucracies and our globalist leaders are and are rebelling by choosing populists on the right and left. Nobody should be under any illusions that Trump will accomplish anything in his second term- he will be an instant lame duck that the bureaucracy can outlast, Congress isn’t likely to pass much legislation and leftist judges will stay (for awhile) most of his exec orders. By the time the stuff is litigated the Repubs will have lost the 2026 midterms and Congress amidst a constant drumbeat of media negativity.

Still, I’d rather have Trump than Biden in 2024 as a matter of national security, even if nothing is accomplished and it sets the Dems up well for 2028.

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