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"To their surprise, they found little in the DNA that stood out."

I'm betting it was more 'disappointment' than 'surprise'. A lot of nice things like longevity, IQ, and health seem to go together and we've known for a long time that, for the genetic components feeding into these characteristics, the aggregate is the combination of lots of little contributions across the genome, and a lot of that is correlated to lower levels of error in alleles that are otherwise common in the population, that is "low genetic load".

It's a hobby of mine to look up how long famous intellectuals lived and it's stunning how many got past 90, with it being a frequent surprise to learn that someone born in the Depression era is still alive. As a random example, I recently heard an old song from the late 1950's from Tom Lehrer (famous satirical musician, music and math prodigy in his youth, invented the Jello Shot while working for NSA). Dead? Nope, he just had his 97th birthday.

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Just before the paywalled part, the WSJ notes that the single biggest factor in aging is exercise, “the single most effective medical intervention that we know.” While it might be disappointing to Arnold that the article doesn't repeat the oft-repeated Correlation does not prove Causation, in his comment he also seems unwilling to note the understated truism that All Causation results in Correlation.

Anybody looking for causation should start with correlations. Not yet proving that some correlation is a causal one, doesn't mean it isn't. Lots of true things aren't proven truth. I do wish there were more college graduate alumni studies -- and even think Fed student loans should require collection of more annual info as taxes are filed yearly. Including weight.

All human results are based on genetic & epigenetic influences, environmental influences, individual behavior choices, and luck, or everything else. Studying the survivors after 80 won't show many of the genetic mistakes that cause/ influence earlier death, because those folks didn't survive. Similarly bad environment, and even bad individual behavior. In this paradigm, what does it even meant to say "better health luck at age 71"? Exercising at Israeli dancing, or not, is not an issue of luck.

For me, I was skiing a couple years ago, for exercise. Then I paused on the slope and a young woman barreled into me, damaging my eye bone, teeth, face, back, & knees. I think of that as bad luck -- good decision to ski for exercise, but bad outcome. Now I exercise (almost) every day, for my back, and usually also a 40 minute walk or so.

Plus I read Arnold Kling & his links a lot to keep up my good spirits, and to learn new things.

You can't teach an old dog to do new things ... so if you're learning new things, you're not an old dog.

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