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Dallas E Weaver's avatar

The dose-response is not as clean as is believed. It can be very non-linear.

With the new administration appointment of RFK Jr., we will be deep into this problem with fluoride. Flouride is a required nutrient, and your body regulates the concentration, but only over a narrow input concentration range. If the input is too low, as I witnessed in 1962, both the rich and the poor had false teeth by 18 to 24 years old. That area also had a higher frequency of bone problems with their super high purity water (only containing some CaSO4). High concentrations above the optimal amount will cause discoloration of the teeth, and RFK jr claims IQ effects.

As almost all IQ research seems to have been restricted in the last half a century for political reasons, I have a feeling the science backing up the fluoride/IQ dose-response curve is a bit weak as it is probably based upon rural areas with high natural levels combined with many other factors that impact IQ such as inbreeding effects.

Now that we can measure every chemical everywhere, we face the problem of having N variable problems where N is a very large number. The relevant variables can also be interrelated; the resulting correlation can be misleading unless all are considered and measured. Think conic sections to see why you can't describe an N-dimensional problem in N-x dimensions. The fluoride concentration in nature is related to many other chemical components. Environmental activists and social science/humanities areas have long used the exclusion of relevant variables to obtain desired, but false results.

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Doctor Hammer's avatar

"Jason Manning writes,

Arthur C. Clarke said any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Not really. Magic is a concept we reserve for things outside of that which is so common and reliable that it’s part of the mundane world."

Jason Manning is very much missing the point of that statement. "Sufficiently advanced" is doing an important job he isn't quite getting, in that it is not common in our mundane world, and so in the context of the story and how we think of it it might as well be magic. 80's movies' computers are a good example, where, from the standpoint of today, they are basically magic beings that can come up with impossibly perfect calculations as major plot points.

This applies outside of stories to the real world when you see people with cargo-cult like approaches to technology, being so unable to grasp the basic rules and functions that they just assume it works by understanding what you want it to do. Think people who have car accidents because they set the cruise control while on the highway and took a nap.

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