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BenK's avatar

Arnold;

My subject of professional study is how biology learns - which is useful because mathematical abstractions too often founder on the 'spherical chicken' and sociology too often founders on mood affiliation.

If you pardon some grammatical cleverness, I'd like to address the question of what 'showing your work' looks like in a world where very very few people or organisms are professional thinkers. Your notion of figuring out who to believe based on them writing out their explicit logic is sound in a scholastic or scholarly environment, but most organisms or people show their work by literally practicing it. If it works for them in the short run, you can observe that. If it works for them in the long run, you can observe that - more slowly. If it works in the very long run, you can observe their progeny.

Girard is indeed an astute master and he observed that this all works very well for certain key kinds of traits. Essential behaviors such as avoiding poisonous food are well learned by observation. Lineages that teach and thus preserve them are successful. Of course, it ends up creating conflict over the pre-approved foodstuffs.

However, if there is essential diversity - we might call it 'specialization' - it becomes a downright burden as many people may learn things that are actually ill-suited to them. Further, if some traits are 'green beard' traits - about social identity and affiliation - and each group requires certain social subspecialties at certain frequencies - now we are into economics (or real biology).

The question of 'who to trust' becomes conflated with emulation, learning, and competition. For example, mate competition only makes sense within a single generation, and Freud spent an (inordinate, I think) amount of time contemplating when that behavior is misapplied.

The phrase 'what is good for me' can be ambiguous. We might choose to learn behaviors from someone who exhibits behavior that we predict will work well for us, but that requires an uncommon degree of forecasting and imagination... and draws us away from the strength of the method, that we can simply observe that a successful person does X, and so X must not, at minimum, be immediately fatal to ambition. 'What is good for me' can also be at the level of the society - we can observe that person X produces outcomes which favor us, personally and directly (or in the inverse, damage us, hurt us, cause us pain) and decide to trust or not trust that person accordingly.

Many midwits deride this strategy for learning, saying that it is not intellectually rigorous - but then hypocritically turn around and espouse it when it suits them. In fact, it makes logical sense to trust people who show you sustained respect and effective care; and to emulate them preferentially and favor them for positions of influence.

Anyway, I haven't nearly exhausted the topic, but I hope I haven't taxed your attention.

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Kenny's avatar

This is the best post so far on what you're describing as 'social learning'.

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