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forumposter123@protonmail.com's avatar

This is one of those areas where I'm a subject matter expert, and I find the commentary in this space dismal.

First, most of the things that bother people in the drug space don't relate to life saving meds or Pharma profit margins. They focus on me-too drugs and absurd pricing regimes like manufacturer rebates. By far the biggest pain point in Pharma was insulin, which is an old drug with many equal alternatives (who the fuck cares if your on Humalog or Novolog) that was priced 10x higher then net in the worlds biggest gross to net bubble ever. None of that 1,000% nominal price markup was funding drug R&D.

Second, its an extreme irony that the IRAs drug price negotiations INCREASED drug prices. CMS and the CBO, being incompetent and corrupt sycophants, don't acknowledge this. But it's true, and anyone that's looked into it with even cursory math knows that the IRA dramatically increased the cost of Part D. Again, it's not "life saving drugs" that are the subject of price negotiations, but the garden variety brand drugs that are part of the rebate game gross to net bubble.

I do in fact hope that Trump negotiates lower prices on many of these drugs. If he doesn't nobody is going to cover them and none of the money is going to go to R&D.

Third, not all drugs are actually useful. A lot of them are of marginal or even negative benefit. When you reduce cost to the patient a lot of them will start utilizing drugs they don't really need. Take for instance the recent $2,000 out of pocket max from the IRA. It turns out that a lot of people that didn't think they needed Dupixent or a bunch of other garbage specialty drugs all of a sudden decided they would give it a try now that the cost is $2,000 (or if they take a brand drug already which most do, $0 additional). Dupixent is BTW the #1 advertised pharma drug in the world. You don't need to advertise that much if your product speaks for itself. It was a blast watching the company pay prescribers to mass enroll people in the drug on 1/1/2025.

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Brandon Berg's avatar

I hope that someday, sooner rather than later, a pharmaceutical company makes a lot of money by exploiting my need for a medication for the disease that killed my mother.

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