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Nicholas Weininger's avatar

I think you give too short a shrift to the idea that public policy can, at the margin, ameliorate some of the entrenched consequences of our historical legacy of racism (and these entrenched consequences are a big part, though not all, of what is generally meant by systemic racism). A couple of examples:

1. Black kids are AIUI much more likely to grow up in areas of concentrated poverty, and growing up in an area of concentrated poverty is bad for anyone's life outcomes. This disparity is at least partly due to the legacy of racist housing policies which led to residential segregation patterns, and housing policies aiming to break down those segregation patterns and move people to opportunity could ameliorate it.

2. Black kids are also more likely to be victims of lead pollution, and the distribution of lead pollution is due at least in part to environmental racism. So a race-neutral effort to remove environmental lead everywhere, which is likely a good thing for the whole population, would also act to narrow racial gaps.

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Michael P's avatar

I share the tendency to attribute most of these differences to cultural causes rather than genetics or systemic racism, but isn't it plausible that the change in incarceration rates for black males over that time span was due to society taking remedial steps to reduce the effects of systemic racism?

In particular, if we take "cultural causes" to act through the habits and indicators that a person learns and exhibits, and "systemic racism" to act through differential expressions of government power, the change in incarceration rates looks like some combination of both. If one follows a link from the Pew article to a Marshall Project essay, https://www.themarshallproject.org/2017/12/15/a-mass-incarceration-mystery, there are a number of factors contributing to the change. Both crime and arrest rates have dropped since the 1990s; the former is more of a (putative) cultural-cause effect, and the latter a (putative) systemic-racism effect. The War on Drugs shifted focus over this time, from crack to meth and opioids, and criminal justice reform was disproportionately adopted in urban areas. I think this at least weakly or partially supports the systemic-racism position, although one could argue -- even from what the Marshall Project presented -- that the effect is partly a kind of systemic-reverse-racism, treating rural crime more strictly than urban crime.

On the other hand, that we reduced such a disparity by a third with relatively ordinary changes to the polity, strongly undercuts the claim that correcting those problems "requires revolutionary change".

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