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Doctor Hammer's avatar

"Once we reach the next fusion-fueled energy level, we will enter a new era of peace and prosperity."

Wow... I wasn't going to comment having said most of what I wanted to say in the last post, but that quote... suddenly I am adjusting my probability that MM might know what he is talking about down by quite a bit. Are current wars about energy availability? Was the period during or after the Industrial Revolution relatively peaceful?

I am all for peace and prosperity, but availability of energy, or even relative wealth increases, doesn't seem to do a great deal to keep people from killing each other. It does make us rather better at it, and allows the killing to be relatively separate from the average person, but it doesn't seem to do much to keep the total level of deaths down.

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I think MM makes a fundamental error to the extent that he focuses on EROI. Energy used to get more energy is only important in two ways: (1) if the ratio is less than 1 and (2) to the extent it correlates and causes the cost of obtaining energy to increase.

MM says in 1950 1 barrel of oil found you another 100 and in 2010 1 barrel of oil found you another 5. That doesn't sound so good but I'm pretty sure that over that time period, the cost of oil has decreased. That is more significant.

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