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I don't really buy the "can't put the toothpaste back in the bottle" argument. I think that's more a preference for avoiding difficult work than a true statement. It seems to me a pro-marriage pro-natal strategy isn't that hard to come up with (more below).

Can government change behavior? Easily!

Let me give you an example. In 1900 cigarette sales were very low. And women very rarely smoked. By 1960 cigarettes sold per day had reached 11 per US adult. By 2010 that had fallen to 3 per adult and has fallen much further since.

https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2021/07/Smoking-and-lung-cancer-mortality-US-only.png

So what draconian government measures did it take to achieve that?

1) It taxed cigarettes.

2) It banned certain kinds of advertising.

3) It sponsored public health awareness campaigns (many of which were lame, but it still worked).

Imagine in 1960 someone saying "everyone smokes, there is no way to put the toothpaste back in the bottle!"

It really wasn't that hard a thing to do. You just had to change the incentive structure.

And of course much of the TFR shortfall is due to current anti-natal anti-marriage incentives:

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2023/05/anti-natal-engineering

Let me lay out how you easily solve TFR issues.

1) End marriage penalties in both taxation and government benefits provision.

2) Pay families much bigger child allowances (provide double child allowance if married to a male who earns at least the equivalent of full time minimum wage in a year).

3) Make each child dependent increase the standard deduction in a scalar manner.

4) Re-jigger SS and Medicare taxes so that childless pay more and people with children pay less (this is a very fair way of doing it).

5) Stop subsidizing daycare over SAHM.

6) Provide total school choice, including paying cash directly to homeschool parents.

7) Stop subsidizing higher education and make alternative paths to career success more viable.

8) Some stuff about making housing cheaper.

9) Some stuff about making neighborhoods safer.

10) Vaguely, work from home seems to help with TFR for professionals so nudge in that direction.

The money for dramatically higher support for parents and marriage is there. Just think of what we spend per pupil on K-12 alone and imagine giving it directly to parents. Some of these suggestions help everyone equally and some scale to help the Middle/UMC more (where a lot of the shortfall in TFR is).

The blocks are cultural and political. Low natality women and other childless groups would lose out. Perhaps most importantly the K-12 educational establishment would lose out.

It's fear of taking these groups on at the ballot box, as well as a general elite fear of being "judgmental" about what is and isn't a superior lifestyle choice that is the problem. As a result we HIGHLY SUBSIDIZE childlessness and as a result we get more of it.

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steve hardy's avatar

One of the factors that distinguishes the current generation of teenagers from those of three decades ago is their level of exposure to adults. When I was a teenager (a long time ago, I must confess), most of us had to work, either part-time during school or full-time during summer. This gave us the opportunity to interact with adults other than our parents and learn from their experiences and perspectives. However, many of today’s teens do not get a job until they finish their education. I think that working with and negotiating with a variety of adults at an early age is essential for developing maturity and independence.

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