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Charles Pick's avatar

My personal theory on the "failure to preserve the industrial base" point is that it derived from two things: opportunity in Asia and a loss of appetite for the grind of internal labor conflict. Fighting over industrial labor and pollution issues is unpleasant. It requires a lot of ungenteel and flinty attitudes. It requires a lot of natural resources, also necessitating work with the grubby sort of person who lives underground. It breaks down the caste system that most leadership cadres prefer and supplants it with a dirty and conflict-ridden sort of egalitarianism. When you offshore industrial production, you also offshore all of its externalities (both POSITIVE and NEGATIVE). This type of specialization and trade can only survive so long as the security of the supply lines do.

It can also be difficult to sustain because, as humans are corporeal beings, control of the stuff of the physical world will always provide you with insurmountable leverage over the people who control the stuff of the spirit.

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If housing goes up I'd say that it doesn't increase wealth at all.

If I sell my house I have to buy another house.

If try to borrow against my house rates on home equity loans are now a lot higher, so while the balance you may be lent is higher it costs a lot more to borrow that money.

I could maybe see how certain kinds of people might benefit on the margin. Say, a retired couple downsizing benefits a tinie bit from house price inflation. But the fact that their reverse mortgage is more expensive probably outweighs it.

The only real winners are people who locked in thirty year mortgages two years ago, but what they "win" is being trapped in their golden handcuff house whether they like it or not.

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