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Red Barchetta's avatar

I'll preface this by saying I'm a near-daily marijuana user, who resides in a state where it is legal recreationally.

I think the issue with legalizing drugs, gambling, pornography, etc. is that the movements to legalize and/or keep these vices from heavy regulation adopts and pushes a false binary. Either the thing is evil or it is "good, actually."

In the case of marijuana, too many legalization advocates have long treated weed as some sort of miracle drug, with anyone pointing out tradeoffs or downsides being branded a moralistic scold. So, I don't think the problem is legalizing or decriminalizing vices. It's the cultural narrative that not only should these things be left to personal choice (which I 100% agree with), its that these things aren't even vices, and to label them as "vices" is to be some sort of backwards cultural luddite. I think its the nature of activism - to get what you want freed from the shackles of government, a winning argument is that its harms have been overstated or are nonexistent. Once the freedom is granted, society has to some degree swallowed the activist argument - forever changing the perceived morality of exercising that freedom. These are separate streams, but I'm not sure how you untangle them, to be honest, besides society 1) prioritizing and emphasizing personal agency, and 2) redrawing a bright line between "illegal" and "immoral", and 3) embracing the world as it truly is - full of tradeoffs and nuance.

People often confuse libertarians with libertines. That's a Venn diagram with a lot of overlap, but there *is* distance between believing things should not be prohibited and promoting the use of the those same things. Libertarianism is a commentary on what ought to and ought not to be restricted to the individual's discretion, not necessarily the implicit moral endorsement of "whatever choice the individual makes."

In other words, it's possible to believe in drug legalization or decriminalization, while still believing these things are *morally* wrong, or should be used in moderation. But it puts the onus on the individual and not the government to enforce. You can believe I'm ruining my life by using marijuana daily while still believing I should have the freedom to make that choice for myself.

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Nicholas Weininger's avatar

There is a distinct lack of sense of proportion here: a freedom does not have to be downside-free to be worth allowing on net. And the smell of pot smoke on the street, while indeed an unpleasant nuisance, is not reasonably described as "social breakdown". It is not as if NYC smelled like roses before!

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