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Stephen Lindsay's avatar

Don’t fall for this nonsense, Arnold. There is zero empirical backing for any of these ideas. Childhood diseases, smoking, work accidents, wars, death in childbirth, death by exposure - the causes of death before our generation were not weeding out bad mutations, they killed more or less indiscriminately. Rh+ children of Rh- mothers (like my children also) are not carrying mutations that are bad for human fitness, any more than anyone else. The psychological distress our society is facing now is not genetic, it’s traceable to all kinds of causes, as Haidt and others are pointing out, not least of all due to our secular age of meaninglessness, which was not caused by mutations. Low birth rates are not caused by some physiological mutation detection system that tells people not to have children. The ideas in the Toby quotes are all just such nonsense - surely the byproduct of his excess mutation load.

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Russell Gold's avatar

I know quite a few high IQ people who are very religious today, and have a high fertility rate. It’s not IQ that leads to skepticism about religion, but a range of other factors, including the massive change in social organization and the presence of so much scientific knowledge, which means that the old “god of the gaps” approach is no longer effective.

I’m curious, though, about the idea that it is some genetic factor rather than the usual suggestions - lower infant mortality, reduced poverty, higher women’s education, and lower religious attachment which explain lowered birth rates.

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