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My grandfather was a card carrying communist in the 1930s because he was involved in union organizing amongst the mechanics and electricians. He gave it up with the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, which he viewed as transparently discrediting to communism.

1) The issue of Jewish leftism mostly seems to be a phenomena of elite Jews. While average Jews are slightly to the left of average whites, elite Jews are dramatically to the left, with the UMC falling in-between.

You see this pattern with other non-whites. Your middle class light skinned Cuban pretty to the right, but your professional Indian woman in NOVA being hyper woke.

2) I think there is a "somewhere vs anywhere" divide partly related to class (the upper classes move more) but also quite related to the Jewish experience of not really belonging to an area/society and having to move around.

3) I don't really see any elite Jewish conservatives. I see libertarians and I see neocons. But present author excluded I feel like I see few conservatives.

4) Jewish attitudes in Israel are so different than in America I can't help but think that there is a specifically anti-majoritarian stance that is solely related to their being in the minority. All minorities in all cultures seem to have this attitude, though not all have either the capability or inclination to make it political (East Asians for instance are temperamentally unpolitical, even if they can be counted on for some votes).

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See Yuri Slezkine's The Jewish Century for an extrapolation on this theme across continental Europe and into the Pale and Russia. He details in great length the exceptional performance of Jews in urban settings over successive generations (industry, education, then eventually as influential political actors) starting in the mid 1800s. Sets Jews within the larger merchant class outsider group common throughout world history (Indians in Africa & Caribbean, overseas Chinese in SE Asia, Greeks in Europe and the NE), Germans throughout Europe and Russia, Arabs in Latin America, etc.)

Importantly echoes the idea Arnold expresses here that by the early to mid 20th Jews were vastly over-represented in communist movements, capitalism (banking, industry, prestige professions, academy) and media.

Good interview with Slezkine here with Harry Kreisler: https://youtu.be/K_nhahTUFWo?feature=shared

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